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How Many Pokemon Should There Be? by pimmermen How Many Pokemon Should There Be? by pimmermen
A Legitimate question for gamefreak to be asking moving forward is, "how many pokemon should there be?" And while Masuda's point about there being too many pokemon to remember (as a justification for 72 pokemon in XY) is well taken, there is also something to be said of enough pokemon so as not to dissapoint fans.

For this reason I set out to answer the question, "how many pokemon should there be?" My answer? Well, my answer is however many pokemon fans demand, if that puts the count past 1000, then so be it. However, the approach I took to confirm my answer is much more logical than just the demands of the fans. I started thinking how it always seems that for each new generation of pokemon games I can find less and less pokemon to use on my team. This of course undoubtedly has to do with the fact that bias will forbid me from using certain pokemon ever, such as pokemon that are too popular (Lucario), or pokemon I hate too much (Barbaracle). But what if my self limiting bias was out of the picture and I could use any pokemon on my team for any given playthrough of a pokemon game? How many would there viably be to choose from? To answer this question I used Bulbapedia and the list of all the pokemon currently in existence.

For starters I put a competitive barrier in the way. Most players want pokemon that can actually battle without being killed in one hit, and this excludes almost all the baby pokemon (also because no one uses baby pokemon rather than those that they evolve into) and various others, so I made it a rule that the pokemon must have a stat total of 400 or more to be considered viable (keeping in mind that this is subjective and does exclude some viable pokemon such as those with Mega evolutions; Sableye, Mawile, etc...), when that is accounted for we have:

439 pokemon to choose from (excluding mega evolutions and non permanent forms for obvious reasons).

I Thought of what other viability barriers might be put in place to give us our true count. Again, because people do not use pokemon that are pre evolutions, generally speaking, I eliminated all first and middle stage form pokemon of respective evolutionary lines (pokemon such as Wailmer or Gabite) and the amount of pokemon to choose from drops to:

386 pokemon.

Then I went to blatantly subjective eliminators, such as pokemon that have stat totals above 400 that simply can't be used in my opinion. Here I refer to pokemon such as Plusle, Waboufett, Carbink (Yes I know that Steven Stone uses one) etc...
Our count after these pokemon are eliminated falls to:

371 pokemon to choose from.

Then excluding legendaries (Rotom not included) and the unobtainable starter pokemon the total count falls to: 

292 pokemon to choose from.

So there you have it, for the sake of legitimately viable team building (with no pre evolved or middle stage pokemon) there are 292 pokemon to choose from. So It is not surprising that I felt that there wasn't pokemon to choose from for my sun and moon team. 

On that topic, how many pokemon should be introduced in Sun and Moon? Of course the question is complicated by Ultra Beasts (which may or may not be pokemon) and Alolan forms, which I would consider new pokemon because they bring a new viability to a team. 

SPOILER ALERT!!!!!

Though I have not looked at all their sprites and I do believe not all alolan forms were included in the datamined pokedex, there are 81 new pokemon in Sun and Moon (and I guess that is including ultra beasts ((Better rewrite the theory that they're also people because that would be weird)))

Is this enough. Personally i don't think so, but that is just my opinion. As I see it the count will breach 1000 eventually, there is no purpose in trying to put it off, and with the new game mechanics of sun and moon (what with the type weaknesses being shown and what not) which pokemon you can remember no longer seems to be a problem to me. I would have liked to see Sun and Moon's pokedex count at 90 -100 and certainly no more than 120, but 81 is certainly better than XY which just felt cheap. 
So there you have it, how many pokemon are there to choose from? How many pokemon should there be? What do you think?
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Mistarooni Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you should edit this (81 is the official number of new Pokemon)
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SpireEx Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would like to see a few more Pokémon to come (!!!!WARNING SOFT SPOILERS!!!! [LOL] Pyukumuku/Mimichu/Comfey/Komala need an evolution at least, Salandit a male evolution and Drampa a pre-evolution! !!!!SOFT SPOILERS END HERE!!!!), since data miners said they could not decrypt some data...maybe I'm just dreaming but I still hope! :D:D




She's right! Down Arrow By Djidji Thirbaan-d7jjd9k  Too little Pokémon for Kalos (and Alola too at this point...who knows?...:shrug:)
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Emissary4Penguins Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Generation six sucked!
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah it wasn't too good in retrospect.
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Emissary4Penguins Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Did they ever explain why there were so little introduced?
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes. Masuda said that there were getting to be too many pokemon to remember, especially for young fans and those new to the series.
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Emissary4Penguins Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Cant they just separate them into different eras?
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Well, like I said, the new battle mechanics makes it so that it doesn't matter. That is, you don't have to remember the type of every pokemon, so they could just put em all in and make it feel like a real life world of pokemon.
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Emissary4Penguins Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Okay that sounds reasonable...
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
I Think all in all, XY was an experiment and they went overboard with new features, so that the main features of pokemon fell through and the experiment failed.
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francisjairam121 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016
Well I heard there was a rumor or leak saying that there is 800 Pokemon in Sun and Moon meaning to say they've added 79 more Pokemon to the current 721 Pokemon we already know. 
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't want to look at the leaks and confirm what I think the number is. However, I am pretty sure Serebii has said it was 81 new pokemon.
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TheCynicalPoet Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Honestly, I'm alright with fewer Pokemon introduced as long as they continue giving older Pokemon alternate forms/mega evolutions. I'd say so long as the new Pokemon count introduced between 70-110 new Pokemon, I'd say that's a fine average to settle with for now, considering all of the forms that come along with each new generation as of lately. 

I don't think Game Freak should really push exceeding 1000 Pokemon, so pacing it slower since Gen 5 has been a good move, in my opinion. It gives sort of breathing room for new concepts and ideas to mesh into the Pokemon World (Z-Moves, mega evolutions, Alolan Forms, etc.). 

One has to wonder though - at what point is too much? For me, I don't think having new Pokemon introduced every generation is a bad, but will there come a point where people in general say enough is enough? 
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pimmermen Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't think we'll ever reach that point, especially since the fans are mostly those who are familiar with most pokemon and want to see more.
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